The meeting was held on 5 Dec 2004.
Voting: Limi, Christian, Norm, Joel (as Mark), Alan, Geoff
Absent: Geoff, Marcel, Jodok, Robert
Alan moved to approve the minutes. Minutes accepted by acclaim.
Alan moved to approve the agenda. Agenda accepted.
No report for president, vice-president, secretary.
*Membership*. Not getting much response at all from volunteers.
Might need to revisit the approach of using the committee to review
applications. Mark and Paul suggested a backup plan to have Mark
and Paul clear out the backlog if people don't step up.
Norm brought up a question about the number of people we are
targeting. Alex brought up the question about activity level by the
*Trademark*. Alex said he now has admin access to manage the
committee mailing list. Plone Solutions will be a first case.
*Marketing*. No report.
*Fund raising*. Mark started the conversation, but no response from
volunteers. Mark explained the strategy about how to approach
1) IRC appt didn't happen.
2) Geoff configured J2.
3) Recognition committee, need status from Geoff.
4) Cafe Express. Mark offered to help Ofer manage the Cafe Express
and found out more info on the bank information needed. Mark has
some concerns about getting money in this way directly due to tax
ID (and thus IRS reporting).
*Contrib agreement*. For grantback. Ron: We need to structure the
admin burden so we're ok, if we have a grantback and we don't police
the license, then it's poo on us. We could grantback the code in a
closed source to a BSD style license. People need to ask for the
grantback at the moment of contribution, due to contract law
"consideration". We can't give the grantback afterwards. Can't be
When someone wants the grantback, we need to execute a sep agreement
defining the different contribution.
Question from a logistical matter, have a form with a blank for the
grantback license, exhibit A as code.
People need to declare up front that they intend to pursue the
grant-back. This sounds pretty inconvenient, but we are not talking
about single lines of code here. This is a legal requirement, and
has to do with the legal term of "consideration".
We have to ask up front about getting a grant-back - but we can
re-assign this under whatever license we want after that. We could
police these licenses (Is module X that company Y relicensed under
the MPL really being done properly?), but we won't, and we
shouldn't. We don't lose anything anyway, and Plone Foundation is in
the clear no matter what happens to that code after the fact.
The typical use case would be to donate a chunk of code - for
example LinguaPlone. Plone Solutions would then have to develop the
product to the state they wanted it to be in, and then contribute
the whole thing under a grant-back.
We also have to get people to sign off on the code they contribute
Some discussion on how this could be done in practical terms.
1) Alan to provide Mark a mailing list for fund raising.
2) Paul will provide to Ron some scenarios for grantback.