Focusing on debug information lines:

/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/collective.captcha-1.1-py2.4.egg
/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/zopyx.convert-1.0.6-py2.4.egg

The current Plone site includes some but not all aspects of previous sites with which I experimented.

I did place, but did not use Plone control panel to install, TextIndexNG3
<http://opensource.zopyx.com/software/textindexng3/>. Re
<http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/zopyx.convert/1.0.6>

> zopyx.convert is build on the commercial converters XINC/XFC

I preferred to not install.

Similarly, I installed
collective.captcha
but have not actually done anything with it.

I wondered whether the eggs should be removed.

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msg4:/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages centrimadmin$ pwd
/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages
msg4:/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages centrimadmin$ ls -hlt
total 5648
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 136K Dec 4 18:29 Levenshtein.so
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 363B Dec 2 07:46 easy-install.pth
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136B Dec 2 07:46 zopyx.convert-1.0.6-py2.4.egg
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136B Dec 1 20:39 collective.captcha-1.1-py2.4.egg
drwxr-xr-x 26 root admin 884B Dec 1 20:38 skimpyGimpy
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136B Dec 1 16:21 Products.SimpleAttachment-3.0.2-py2.4.egg
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136B Dec 1 16:21 Products.Ploneboard-2.0b1-py2.4.egg
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 37B Nov 29 22:08 zope.pth
drwxrwxr-x 28 plone admin 952B Nov 17 21:52 openid
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 10K Nov 17 21:52 drv_libxml2.pyc
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 401K Nov 17 21:52 libxml2.pyc
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 906K Nov 17 21:52 libxml2mod.so
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 46K Nov 17 21:52 libxslt.pyc
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 906K Nov 17 21:52 libxsltmod.so
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 38K Nov 17 21:51 libxslt.py
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 324K Nov 17 21:51 libxml2.py
drwxrwxr-x 161 plone admin 5K Nov 17 21:45 PIL
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 4B Nov 17 21:45 PIL.pth
drwxrwxr-x 24 plone admin 816B Nov 17 21:45 elementtree
drwxrwxr-x 10 plone admin 340B Nov 17 21:45 setuptools-0.6c7-py2.4.egg
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 29B Nov 17 21:45 setuptools.pth
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 119B Nov 17 21:44 README
-rwxrwxr-x 1 plone admin 14K Sep 5 2005 drv_libxml2.py

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Noted that some items are owned by root (not by plone) so

msg4:/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages centrimadmin$ sudo chown -R plone .

msg4:/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages centrimadmin$ sudo SystemStarter restart Plone-3.0.3
. . daemon process stopped
. daemon process started, pid=921

chown then restart Zope/Plone did not resolve the issue so I am experimenting with archiving then setting aside/removing
zopyx.convert --

msg4:/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages centrimadmin$ sudo tar zcvf zopyx.convert-1.0.6-py2.4.egg.tgz zopyx.convert-1.0.6-py2.4.egg

msg4:/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages centrimadmin$ sudo rm -r zopyx.convert-1.0.6-py2.4.egg

msg4:/Applications/Plone-3.0.3/Python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages centrimadmin$ sudo mv zopyx.convert-1.0.6-py2.4.egg.tgz /Users/Shared

sudo SystemStarter restart Plone-3.0.3

Might there be a conflict with
skimpyGimpy (a requirement of collective.captcha)?

Also, I'll try removing then replacing AROfficeTransforms.

> available to the user that runs Zope ?

On this type of Mac OS X installation: files in the Zope/Plone installation are typically owned by user named

plone

> _all_ the system binaries mentioned in the README

The curious thing: when I previously experimented with AROfficeTransforms, possibly using 0.9.2 from SVN, I'm fairly sure that *not* all binaries were present. I assumed that not all are required, because on that earlier occasion I found that

 * ODF files were previewed (I guess, AROfficeTransformed)
 * PDF and Microsoft formats were _not_ previewed.

> install these dependancies

>> xsltproc
>> unzip

Present on Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 with Xcode developer tools installed.
Maybe, also present on ordinary Mac OS X 10.4.11.
http://developer.apple.com/[…]/xsltproc.1.html

>> pdftohtml

Installed using
MacPorts http://www.macports.org/

>> wv

wv should also be installable using MacPorts
but my attempts have coincided with a bug affecting a dependency,
http://trac.macosforge.org/[…]/13448#comment:28

>> ppthtml

As I recall this installed without difficulty from source.

>> xlhtml

I had difficulty with source from http://chicago.sourceforge.net/xlhtml/ but via Google and http://www.us.es/[…]/sample.txt I found

xlhtml-0.5.1-vd2.tgz
at http://nebuchadnezzar.zion.cz/xlhtml.php
-- that is, or was, a "pre-release/release candidate/fork".

> available to the user that runs Zope ?

Some of the binaries are at a path
/usr/local/bin
that is NOT standard on Mac OS X:

msg4:/usr/local/bin centrimadmin$ ls -l
total 488
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 444 Dec 6 07:02 nsopen
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 568 Dec 6 07:02 nspptview
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 569 Dec 6 07:02 nsxlview
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 68936 Dec 6 07:02 ppthtml
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 167736 Dec 6 07:02 xlhtml

(nothing else in that directory).

I lacked the knowledge to install them to the more proper
/usr/bin

I might symlink selected items in
/usr/local/bin
so that they appear at
/usr/bin

but first, I'll await your advice regarding requirement of *all* binaries.

* Are some optional?

* Or must all be present before the product can install?

Thanks
Graham

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Also, the
plone user
has no shell; Apple's NetInfo Manger shows
/usr/bin/false

I wonder whether it's possible to set an environment for the plone user. I am not expert. This may be irrelevant if I take a symlink approach to making binaries available at a typical Mac OS path.

I wonder, would a broken index in the catalog be relevant?

http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7453

> available to the user that runs Zope ?

On this type of Mac OS X installation: files in the Zope/Plone installation are typically owned by user named

plone

> _all_ the system binaries mentioned in the README

The curious thing: when I previously experimented with AROfficeTransforms, possibly using 0.9.2 from SVN, I'm fairly sure that *not* all binaries were present. I assumed that not all are required, because on that earlier occasion I found that

 * ODF files were previewed (I guess, AROfficeTransformed)
 * PDF and Microsoft formats were _not_ previewed.

> install these dependancies

>> xsltproc
>> unzip

Present on Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 with Xcode developer tools installed.
Maybe, also present on ordinary Mac OS X 10.4.11.
http://developer.apple.com/[…]/xsltproc.1.html

>> pdftohtml

Installed using
MacPorts http://www.macports.org/

>> wv

wv should also be installable using MacPorts
but my attempts have coincided with a bug affecting a dependency,
http://trac.macosforge.org/[…]/13448#comment:28

>> ppthtml

As I recall this installed without difficulty from source.

>> xlhtml

I had difficulty with source from http://chicago.sourceforge.net/xlhtml/ but via Google and http://www.us.es/[…]/sample.txt I found

xlhtml-0.5.1-vd2.tgz
at http://nebuchadnezzar.zion.cz/xlhtml.php
-- that is, or was, a "pre-release/release candidate/fork".

> available to the user that runs Zope ?

Some of the binaries are at a path
/usr/local/bin
that is NOT standard on Mac OS X:

msg4:/usr/local/bin centrimadmin$ ls -l
total 488
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 444 Dec 6 07:02 nsopen
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 568 Dec 6 07:02 nspptview
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 569 Dec 6 07:02 nsxlview
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 68936 Dec 6 07:02 ppthtml
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 167736 Dec 6 07:02 xlhtml

(nothing else in that directory).

I lacked the knowledge to install them to the more proper
/usr/bin

I might symlink selected items in
/usr/local/bin
so that they appear at
/usr/bin

but first, I'll await your advice regarding requirement of *all* binaries.

* Are some optional?

* Or must all be present before the product can install?

Thanks
Graham

----

Also, the
plone user
has no shell; Apple's NetInfo Manger shows
/usr/bin/false

I wonder whether it's possible to set an environment for the plone user. I am not expert. This may be irrelevant if I take a symlink approach to making binaries available at a typical Mac OS path.

Here's some debug information, I don't know whether it will help.

> I might symlink selected items in
> /usr/local/bin
> so that they appear at
> /usr/bin

OK ... for the five items that are at unusual path
/usr/local/bin

msg4:/usr/local/bin centrimadmin$ ls -l
total 488
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 444 Dec 6 07:02 nsopen
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 568 Dec 6 07:02 nspptview
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 569 Dec 6 07:02 nsxlview
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 68936 Dec 6 07:02 ppthtml
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 167736 Dec 6 07:02 xlhtml

-- I have created symlinks at
/opt/local/bin

-- http://paste.plone.org/18438 for the current full listing of
/opt/local/bin

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http://paste.plone.org/18439 for the directory listing of
/usr/bin
and whilst there are various symlinks at this path, we should probably *not* be tempted to change anything at this path. It may be one of the paths that is best left untouched in a Mac OS X context.

Added a line to
/Library/StartupItems/Plone-3.0.3/Plone-3.0.3

-- that is, within the optional startup item package that's offered by the installer for Mac OS X.

http://pastie.textmate.org/126361 shows this at line 12.

sudo systemstarter restart Plone-3.0.3

after which, at
/prefs_install_products_form
I installed AROfficeTransforms :-)

Credit to moldy in irc://irc.freenode.net/#plone for steering me.

Summary:

* from my perspective, this issue 6 (present but can not be installed) can be closed.

Thanks
Graham